Meeting documents

Council
Wednesday, 25th June, 2008 7.00 pm

Date:
Wednesday, 25th June, 2008
Time:
7.00pm
Place:
Council Chamber, Town Hall, Bury
 

Attendance Details

Present:
The Worshipful the Mayor (Councillor P Ashworth) in the Chair;
Councillors D M Ashworth, K Audin, I Ahmed, R L Baum, C A Berry, R A Bibby, D B Bigg, D Boden, R C A Brown, J Byrne, D M Cassidy, F A Chaudhry, S Cohen, M Connolly, S Costello, Y Creswell, M D’Albert, V D D’Albert, W J Davison, A J Garner, A S Garner, I B Gartside, J Grimshaw, D L Gunther, M Hankey, J Harris, D M Higgin, T Holt, S Hurst, A Isherwood, S P Magnall, A K Matthews, D O’Hanlon, S P Penketh, T D Pickstone, P H Redstone, K Rothwell, J Smith, B J Sullivan, J W H Taylor, B Theckston, B Vincent, R E Walker, J F Walton, M J Wiseman, S D Wright and Y S Wright
Co-opted:
6 members of the public attended the meeting
Apologies for absence:
Councillors K S Briggs, W A Campbell and A J Cummings
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Item Description Decision
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C.101 DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST
 
C.102 ORDER OF BUSINESS
 
C.103 MINUTES OF THE COUNCIL
RESOLVED:

That the Minutes of the meeting of the Council held on 14 May 2008 be confirmed as a correct record and signed by the Mayor.
C.104 MAYORAL COMMUNICATIONS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS
 
C.105 PUBLIC QUESTION TIME
 
C.106 RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE EXECUTIVE AND COUNCIL COMMITTEES
RESOLVED:

1. That the recommendations contained in Minute EX.29 be approved and adopted.

2. That the recommendations contained in Minute EX.75 be approved and adopted.
C.107 LEADER’S STATEMENT AND EXECUTIVE QUESTION TIME
 
C.108 QUESTIONS AT MEETINGS
RESOLVED:

That the Motion set out above be approved and adopted and the Council Constitution amended accordingly.
C.109 NOTICE OF MOTION
RESOLVED:

That the Motion above be approved and adopted.

At the conclusion of the debate on the above Motion, the Mayor in accordance with Council Procedure Rule 9.1, asked the Leader, Councillor Bibby, to move ‘that the whole of remaining business before the Council be approved’. On being put with the Mayor abstaining, the Motion was declared carried.
C.110 SCRUTINY REVIEW REPORTS AND SPECIFIC ITEMS “CALLED IN” BY SCRUTINY COMMISSIONS
 
C.111 JOINT AUTHORITIES - REPORT BY THE COUNCIL’S REPRESENTATIVE AND QUESTIONS
 
C.112 QUESTIONS ON THE WORK OF OUTSIDE BODIES OR PARTNERSHIPS
 
C.113 DELEGATED DECISIONS OF THE EXECUTIVE AND COUNCIL COMMITTEES
 
The meeting started at 7.00 pm and ended at 10.05 pm

Preamble

Preamble
ItemPreamble
C.101(a) Councillor Rothwell declared a personal interest in Minute C.109 below (Notice of Motion) as a member of the National Federation of the Blind which is opposed to the closure of Post Offices.

(b) Councillor Holt declared a personal interest in Minute C.109 below (Notice of Motion) as an employee of Royal Mail.

(c) Councillor Cassidy declared a personal interest in Minute C.109 below (Notice of Motion) as a member of an organisation which is opposed to the closure of Post Offices.
C.102Prior to the commencement of the formal business of the Council, the Worshipful the Mayor requested that, in accordance with paragraph 13(c) of the Council Procedure Rules, the order of business to the agenda be changed so that Item 8 (Questions at Meetings) be considered prior to Item 7 (Notice of Motion). The proposed alteration was to enable the Leader, Councillor Bibby to participate in the debate on Item 8 prior to leaving the meeting to visit a relative in hospital currently.

On being put, with no Member voting against, the order of business was changed.
C.104The Mayor reported that Lieutenant Colonel Eric Davidson, Ms Zahida Fazaley, Dr Kumar Kotegaonkar, Mr John Crawford, Ms Victoria Wood and Mr Tyndale Thomas had all been included in the Queen’s Birthday Honours List. Mr Barry Dixon, County Fire Officer and Chief Executive of the Greater Manchester Fire and Rescue Authority had been appointed Deputy Lieutenant of Greater Manchester in an earlier Honours List.

All are residents or have associations with this Borough and their recognition by the Queen was most fitting and well deserved.

The congratulations and good wishes of the Council and the Borough had been sent to all those honoured.
C.105Mrs A Audin asked the Leader when the fifteen-minute free parking initiative would be implemented; whether existing charges would be reviewed; how the initiative would be monitored; and whether the loss of income to the Council had been budgeted.

The Leader and Councillor Redstone reported jointly on the terms of this initiative and the anticipated benefits to the community and its businesses.
C.106(a) Minute EX.29 of the meeting of the Executive held on 21 May 2008 - Future Governance of the Association of Greater Manchester Authorities

It was moved by Councillor Bibby and seconded by Councillor Creswell that the recommendations be approved.

On being put, with no Member voting against and with 10 abstentions.

(b) Minute EX.75 of the meeting of the Executive held on 11 June 2008 - Risk Management Annual Report 2007/2008.

It was moved by Councillor Bibby and seconded by Councillor Creswell that the recommendations be approved.

On being put, with no Member voting against and with the Mayor abstaining.
C.107The Leader of the Council, Councillor R A Bibby, made a statement on the work of the Executive since the date of the last Council meeting. The Leader and the relevant Executive Members answered questions raised by Councillors on the following issues:-

(a) Written Questions (Notice Given)

1. Issue: 1. Estate Committees established by Six Town Housing 2. Pilot project re Council house garden fencing
Questioner: Councillor Boden
Answered by (and action): Councillor Gartside

2. Issue: Condition of public toilets at Bury Interchange
Questioner: Councillor Boden
Answered by (and action): Councillor Gunther
Councillor Bibby

3. Issue: 1. Removal of bulky domestic refuse 2. Future service improvements
Questioner: Councillor Boden
Answered by (and action): Councillor Gunther

4. Issue: Use of Information Technology at meetings
Questioner: Councillor Holt
Answered by (and action): Councillor Redstone

5. Issue: Traffic congestion at Primrose Drive, Bury
Questioner: Councillor Holt
Answered by (and action): Councillor Gunther (Officers to investigate and report back)

6. Issue: 1. Greater Manchester Transport Innovation Fund Bid 2. Proposed outer-charging ring 3. Effects of Congestion Charging on Simister Village
4. Technical Options to exempt certain journeys from the Charge
Questioner: Councillor Pickstone
Answered by (and action): Councillor Gunther (To examine possible options in relation to Congestion Charging and report back to Councillor Pickstone)

7. Issue: 1. Removal of offensive graffiti. 2. Review of the Council’s Policy to remove graffiti - Pending Review
Questioner: Councillor Pickstone
Answered by (and action): Councillor Gunther

8. Issue: 1. Condition of the roads and pavements in the Borough 2. Budgetary provision for highway repairs
Questioner: Councillor M D’Albert
Answered by (and action): Councillor Gunther

9. Issue: 1. Use of Bio-fuels for Council vehicles 2. Independent research on sustainability of Bio-fuels.
Questioner: Councillor Baum
Answered by (and action): Councillor Gunther

10. Issue: 1. The provisions of the Sustainable Communities Act 2007. 2. Implementation Statement - involvement of all parties
Questioner: Councillor V D’Albert
Answered by (and action): Councillor Creswell

11. Issue: 1. Initiatives to tackle binge-drinking 2. Initiatives developed by other authorities
Questioner: Councillor S Wright
Answered by (and action): Councillor Gunther

12. Issue: 1. Regeneration of the various Town Centres in the Borough 2. Position relating to the Radcliffe SUN Quarter Development
Questioner: Councillor O’Hanlon
Answered by (and action): Councillor Gunther (To brief all Councillors on the SUN Quarter Development)

13. Issue: 1. Condition of the roads at the junction of Bury Old Road, Sheepfoot Lane and Scholes Lane, Prestwich.
2. Operation of the Pelican crossing at the junction
Questioner: Councillor A J Garner
Answered by (and action): Councillor Gunther

(b) Oral Questions (Without Notice)

14. Issue: Suggested Referendum across Greater Manchester on the proposed Congestion Charge
Questioner: Councillor Isherwood
Answered by (and action): Councillor Bibby

15. Issue: Public notice of times and dates of street cleansing regime in Prestwich (Minute C.854(a)(6))
Questioner: Councillor O’Hanlon
Answered by (and action): Councillor Gunther (Referral to E,E&T Scrutiny Commission)

16. Issue: Creation of the new Portfolio of Human Resource and Performance
Questioner: Councillor Connolly
Answered by (and action): Councillor Bibby (Review of all Portfolios being undertaken)

17. Issue: Provision by the Dog Warden Service of bags for the disposal of dog excrement
Questioner: Councillor Costello
Answered by (and action): Councillor Bibby (Written response to Councillor Costello)

18. Issue: Provision in the Revenue Budget 2008/2009 for the employee pay award
Questioner: Councillor Connolly
Answered by (and action): Councillor Redstone

In an exchange of comments, Councillor Connolly requested that his objection to Councillor Redstone’s raised voice during the debate be recorded in the Minutes. Councillor Redstone requested that his objection to Councillor Connolly’s interruption of his reply to question 18 above, be also recorded in the Minutes.
C.108Further to Minute C.08 of the last meeting of the Council held on 14 May 2008, consideration was given to a report by the Leader of the Council reviewing the provisions of the Council Constitution in respect of questions asked by Councillors and members of the public at meetings. The Democratic Arrangements Forum had met on 9 June 2008 to discuss the proposals and a copy of the Minutes of that meeting was attached to the report.

It was moved by Councillor Bibby and seconded by Councillor Creswell that the following proposals be approved:-

“1. Public Questions at Meetings

(a) Public questions for Council be submitted in writing to the Head of Paid Service (Chief Executive) four clear working days prior to the meeting. No supplementary questions to be asked.

(b) Public questions for the Executive to be allowed at the discretion of the Chairman.

(c) Public involvement at Scrutiny Commissions, Licensing and Safety Panel, Standards Committee and Planning Control Committee remain the same.

2. Questions by Members

(a) All questions asked at Council by Members be received in writing by the Head of Paid Service (Chief Executive) four clear working days prior to the meeting, with one supplementary question arising out of the same issue allowed at the discretion of the Mayor.

(b) It is also proposed that any one Member may ask up to two written questions on different subjects at Council meetings. There will be a 30 minute time limit on this part of the Council proceedings.

(c) Verbal questions on the work of the Executive at Council meetings, to be in addition to written questions, but limited to one per Councillor, subject to the discretion of the Mayor, and to be limited in total to 20 minutes.

Questions at the Executive relating to items on the agenda may be submitted by a Ward Councillor provided the question relates specifically to his/her Ward. The question should be submitted to the Head of Paid Service (Chief Executive) three working days prior to the Executive meeting. One supplementary question may be asked.

3. Urgent Items of Business

Questions by Members on urgent items of business may be allowed at the discretion of the Chair.

4. That the Council Constitution be amended as necessary to implement these proposals.

5. That a review of the effectiveness of these new arrangements for the submission of questions at meetings, be undertaken in October 2008”.

(i) An amendment was moved by Councillor Pickstone and seconded by Councillor V D’Albert by way of the deletion of paragraph (a) in Section 1 above relating to questions by the public, and the substitution of the following paragraph:-

“Members of the public are allowed to ask questions at full meetings of the Council. In addition, members of the public will be able to submit questions in writing in advance of the meeting. In both cases a supplementary question will be allowed at the discretion of the Mayor.”

On being put, with 21 Members voting for, 25 against and the Mayor abstaining, the amendment was declared lost.

(ii) A further amendment was moved by Councillor Boden and seconded by Councillor Byrne that paragraphs 1(a), (b) and (c) above be deleted and the substitution of the following paragraph:-

“1. That so far as Members’ questions are concerned, the status quo be maintained subject to a review of the effectiveness in October 2008.”

On being put, with 21 Members voting for, 25 against and with the Mayor abstaining, the amendment was declared lost.

The substantive motion, on being put, 25 Members voted for, 21 against with the Mayor abstaining, it was:-
C.109The following Notice of Motion had been received in accordance with Council Procedure Rule 12:-

POST OFFICE CLOSURES

It was moved by Councillor Baum and seconded by Council Davison that the following motion be approved:-

“This Council:

1. Condemns the Government for the impact its Post Office closure programme will have on the Borough.

2. Notes that the result of this programme will be at least 5 Post Office closures in Bury, which is a callous attack on vulnerable people, on our communities and on business activity within Bury.

This Council notes that this Post Office closure programme will have a detrimental impact on

1. local communities and businesses, including the effect on our local centres

2. areas where there are high levels of deprivation

3. accessibility, particularly in the more rural areas of the Borough.

This Council further notes:

1. That the Government is currently deciding which company will operate the successor to the Post Office Card Account, used by over four million pensioners to receive their pension and other benefits and tax credits

This Council therefore

1. Commits itself to continue to fight for our post offices using the criteria above, and to prepare a detailed response opposing these closures

2. Calls on both of Bury's MPs to publicly commit themselves to the fight to save our Post Offices, and to use all means to achieve this.

3. Calls on the Government, even at this late hour, to withdraw these proposals so that a measured discussion can take place about the maintenance of Post Office services within the community

4. Bury's two MPs to sign Early Day Motion 1584 which calls on the Government to announce that the Post Office will provide the successor to the card account.

This Council further notes that in other consultations the Government has ignored local views and continued to close Post Offices and calls on Council Officers also to continue exploring how Post Office services can be maintained in our communities, even if Post Offices themselves are regrettably closed.”

In the names of Councillors Baum, M D’Albert, V D D’Albert, Davison, A J Garner, A S Garner, O’Hanlon, Pickstone and S D Wright.

On being put, with all Members, including the Mayor, voting for, it was:-
C.110There were no Scrutiny Review Reports or specific items ‘called in’ by Scrutiny Commissions to be considered at this Council meeting.
C.111(a) Councillor Walker, the Council’s representative on the Greater Manchester Police Authority, would circulate a copy of this report on the work of that Joint Authority to all Members of the Council.

(b) The nominated Spokespersons, as indicated below, would forward to all Members of the Council the answers to the following questions submitted in accordance with Council Procedure Rule 11.2:-

1. Joint Authority and Questioner:
Greater Manchester Police Authority Councillor S Wright
Issue: Use of the Police Helicopter
Answered by (and action): Councillor Walker

2. Joint Authority and Questioner: Greater Manchester Passenger Transport Authority Councillor O’Hanlon
Issue: Road congestion and bus lanes on arterial routes in the Borough
Answered by (and action): Councillor Creswell

3. Joint Authority and Questioner: Greater Manchester Passenger Transport Authority Councillor Baum
Issue: Metrolink ticketing machines
Answered by (and action): Councillor Creswell
C.112There were no written questions on the work of outside bodies or partnerships on which the Council is represented, submitted in accordance with Council Procedure Rule 11.2.
C.113There were no questions asked on the delegated decisions of the Executive, Committees or Scrutiny Commissions contained in the Digests of Decision 6 and 7 (2007/2008).